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Your sexual moral ethics (Possible controversial topic)

Sat, 02 Nov 2013 10:14:14

giantkrill

Kind of a highbrow topic for this particular forum, but I felt with the current direction that the DE game's discussion seems to be going, it felt like time to bring it up. Everybody, to some extent, has a limit to what they're willing to put up to when it comes to sex and erotic entertainment. It's human nature for us to be attracted to certain things that our culture and society consider "immoral" to some extent, but we still have out own moral codes for what we're willing to cross or not. There's a point where what may turn someone else on may absolutely disgust the fuck out of us. This topic is what you thing is right and wrong, both when it comes to porn, and sex in the real world. Remember, be respectful and open-minded in your discussion, everyone's thoughts are valid. *** Personally, I absolutely cannot stand it when little kids get excited about sex. I just find it absolutely infuriating when I see some 10-year-old squeaker talk like he's a big time pimp or something. Like those kids who play GTAV multiplayer and flirt with the virtual strippers. That's just some kind of low. I know we can't control others, but fucking damn it, it just pisses me the hell off. (Also the fact that a little kid is even playing GTAV when it's an M rated game pisses me off to begin with, but that in and of itself is another topic) I just think you should wait until you're at an age where you can fully understand, comprehend, and respect sex to talk about it casually. And while we love the idea of sex without consequence, the fact of the matter is, in the real world, it's not like that. While we can enjoy erotic entertainment and dream about how fun it would be to live without consequence, in the real world, it's not the same thing. There's a difference between what we fantasize and what's reality. Out there in the real world, you have to actually be extremely careful. Even if you use protection, it's not a guarantee of safety for both yourself and your partner(s). That's another thing I take issue with, the fact that people think that just because birth control exists that they can do anything they want. Condoms only work 70% of the time, after all. And do you know how fucking stupid and terrible it makes you look when you've got 10 abortions under your belt? And, some girls may actually want to have a baby, even if you don't, which leaves you pretty much fucked over. I think that if you're going to have sex in the real world, you need to be willing and able to take the responsibility for whatever happens. Have a job first, be at least old enough to understand what you're doing is risky, like at least 17 yrs old. 15 is okay, but pushing it. Anything younger then that and it's disgusting. I know that the universal legal age of consent is about 18, but let's face it, a lot of people nowadays get laid by about 15 anyway. I'm not saying you should do it when you're younger then 18, just that happens. If a kid does do it before 18, I'll be somewhat okay with it if they're responsible and respectful about it and not just all "lol i got laid im just so fuckin epic now" Also on a more personal note, I choose to never pay for anything sex related if I can. Sex is something natural and to be shared. It's like having to pay for bottled water when there's drinking fountains nearby. No offense to anyone who has sex for a living though, this is just my own stance, which is why I find the DE shop here on the forum really weird...as much as I want the cum prop that came out awhile back (heh) I refuse to pay for it on principle. So, I'll just go without it. *** When it comes to erotic entertainment, I'm okay with some of the stuff that pushes boundaries, like the stuff that implies forced sex. However, I would never do that or approve of it happening in the real world. That's what's so great about when it's in a fictional format, it's the only way it can be done without someone actually getting hurt.
Sat, 02 Nov 2013 10:38:34

Selph80

"giantkrill" said ...
Condoms only work 70% of the time, after all.
Do you have a source for that? Because the articles that I've read on this, say that it's more of a 94-97% success rate. To comment on the rest of your post. Sure people should be careful of what they're doing when it comes to sex, but that goes for any age. I'm not a fan of the peer pressure that's present among teens for doing it (they make it seems weird if you haven't had sex before a certain age), but if both parties are comfortable with it I see no problems. Also from my understanding, having an abortion isn't a walk in the park, so having multiple ones is something girls will probably want to avoid anyway (not just for status reasons as you make it seem). Problematic things concerning sex in the real world for me are probably found problematic by most people. Large age differences between the partners, especially when one is still underage isn't something I'm in favor of and using any method to force your partner into having sex (mental or physical) is unacceptable to me. When it comes to porn, I'm pretty much fine with them doing anything (although I might not like a lot of it), as long as all involved parties are consenting adults.
Sun, 03 Nov 2013 00:24:33

Soulslayerzx

Society's fucked up and all the people who have seen through all the illusions or have become jaded can do is just sit back and watch. That's what I do. Maybe you want to be a hero to lead them into your set of morally correct guidelines, I've thought of that too. All the war, religion, controversy, and bullshit going on out there. The question to ask yourself if you are of such heroic entity is if they want to be saved. You can't prevent a dude from suiciding if he wants to do it 24/7. You have a life too, are you willing to carry the burdens, in this case children of society, and force them to follow your morals? Probably not as no one is in that sort of power. But yea, fucking children with mics talking smack on the internet or xbox is obnoxious and yet their parents bought them those games or let them get hold of them. So it's really none of my business, but all we can do is make them cry for being immature or just sit back and laugh at them for their naivety. Kids are stupid and the newer generations are just going to slowly deplete themselves of any sort of intelligence. The internet brought access to anything and even a 5 year old could google up"hot naked girl" and go that route. I'm honestly fine with a kid as long as they don't piss me off or make a fool of themselves, but thinking they are tough or cool for doing so. I just laugh,I remember there was a gmod server that had a nude faith ragdoll and these 2 squeakers were all jumping on it and playing with her. I was laughing so hard, but yea. I joined them and put milk emitters on her private parts and it was a great time. Children are children and they live in a smaller world, I'd wish for them to be in their false utopias until they really can't. When you grow up, you can't sit at home watching porn and playing video games all day anymore. Gotta get a job and stuff. Two types of kids I don't like are the wackos on xbox live and the weak ones that get bullied. They can fap till their dick gets wrinkly, wouldn't bother me as long as they weren't doing it in front of me. lol. As for the sexual moral ethics, I'd just keep all the fetishes on the internet and keep it separate from real life unless your partner wished to engage in such activities like bdsm which many of my friend's families actually do. The kid sex thing is annoying on social media and I'd just say their perspective of little kid always being right is retarded and that minors that dont look like minor seducing grown-ups and harming others is just a dick-move. Can't really care about society when everyone is a fucktard. I can imagine the aliens laughing at them. Now this brings up the topic of what makes us human? Being retarded, assholes, selfish, etc. You find realer people and I'd say more advanced people on forums like this one. People who keep it real, have goals, and maybe pretend they're real ,but still have a great time with them.
Sun, 03 Nov 2013 13:16:33

Ganonmaster

"Selph80" said ...
Also from my understanding, having an abortion isn't a walk in the park, so having multiple ones is something girls will probably want to avoid anyway (not just for status reasons as you make it seem).
Very much this. There are serious restrictions in place even in countries where abortion is legal. Often psychological evaluations are done to make sure the woman having the abortion is comfortable with it. It happens very often that women change their mind and want to keep the child minutes before the actual procedure was about to take place. There are various phyisical and psycological risks involved in abortions. I can tell you horror stories of women attempting suicide because they terminated a pregnancy that they actually wanted because of (perceived) pressure from family or friends. Some women have trouble dealing with the stigma that their religious community or public society attaches to it, increasing stress levels which could potentially leading to alcohol/drug abuse. Symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder have been observed as a result of abortion. Other women might feel sexually inadequate or insecure because of the procedure. The mere thought of "A child is attempting to form inside of me" is enough for many women to not have an abortion. In case of surgical abortion, the procedure will in many cases be uncomfortable or creepy. After all, a doctor is going to stare into your crotch and basically probe your womb with a speculum and a vacurette. When I see teenagers who have had 5 abortions done and get pregnant again, it's usually a problem that's either rooted in bad parenting, bad education or domestic abuse. Abortion is a very difficult personal choice to make and you'll rarely see any woman in her right mind take it lightly.
"giantkrill" said ...
I think that if you're going to have sex in the real world, you need to be willing and able to take the responsibility for whatever happens. Have a job first, be at least old enough to understand what you're doing is risky, like at least 17 yrs old. 15 is okay, but pushing it. Anything younger then that and it's disgusting. I know that the universal legal age of consent is about 18, but let's face it, a lot of people nowadays get laid by about 15 anyway. I'm not saying you should do it when you're younger then 18, just that happens. If a kid does do it before 18, I'll be somewhat okay with it if they're responsible and respectful about it and not just all "lol i got laid im just so fuckin epic now"
"giantkrill" said ...
Personally, I absolutely cannot stand it when little kids get excited about sex. I just find it absolutely infuriating when I see some 10-year-old squeaker talk like he's a big time pimp or something. Like those kids who play GTAV multiplayer and flirt with the virtual strippers. That's just some kind of low. I know we can't control others, but fucking damn it, it just pisses me the hell off. (Also the fact that a little kid is even playing GTAV when it's an M rated game pisses me off to begin with, but that in and of itself is another topic) I just think you should wait until you're at an age where you can fully understand, comprehend, and respect sex to talk about it casually.
And that's pretty much impossible. When puberty sets in around the age of 11 or 12, they are slowly starting to learn about these things. It's when they start to form their personality. Casting off the blissful ignorance of childhood and start to slowly understand who they are. Peer pressure becomes more important, they want to prove that they are reaching maturity. But the problem is that you can't expect a child playing GTA to fully comprehend what every aspect of sex is overnight. It's because their brains and bodies don't change overnight either. If only puberty lasted like 8 hours. Yeah, that'd be some world. It is important however, that during puberty, they have someone who guides them through it. They need someone to put it into context for them. The science behind reproduction is taught in school, the moral context can only be taught by the parents. The moral context doesn't end at the 30 minute talk about what love is and how they should deal with it. It also extends to the kind of content they immerse themselves in. You let your 13 year old play GTAV? At least provide some kind of context for the horrible things the characters in those games do. Certain forms of media (explicit music, tv, games or pornography) can negatively influence your children and instill unrealistic expectations of sex or violence. Especially if you just "let them play that Xbox thing" or don't keep track of what your kids do online. They need to be able to discern the fictional worlds from the real world and as a parent you need to draw out that line for them. Lazy parenting is in my opinion the cause of many of the problems you outlined, but unfortunately it is their constitutional right to raise their kids as they see fit. You may not approve of it, but they are free to do as they wish within the bounds of the law. This is a really broad topic though, so this is as far as I'll probably go.