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The New Gallery

Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:48:46

Mikoto

is there going to be a way possibly to hide content you dont want to see. with how it is now you generally know what animators do what of the regular posters. Futa, Gay, Lesbian, monster, Ect.. and I am wondering if in the works is a way to have the content your not interested in 'hidden' from you.
Mon, 21 Apr 2014 21:27:38

Ganonmaster

[center:oqegm7cd]DigitalEro now has a new Gallery[/center:oqegm7cd] This new Gallery will allow you to upload your images and animations directly to DigitalEro. At this time, JPG, GIF and PNG files are supported, and the file size limit is 20MB.(although that may change in the future) For now, uploading will not cost any Lewdcoins. We're also looking to expand the gallery by allowing people to include externally hosted content like GFYCat or pomf.se video, as this new Gallery will replace the old Artwork section sooner or later. Your pictures will also show up in your profile too! Like here for example! Please let us know if you encounter any bugs, or have any ideas or suggestions on how to improve this feature. Edit: The gallery is still a work in progress and much will change in the weeks to come. Also, read the thread before asking a question as it may have already been answered.
Fri, 25 Apr 2014 18:07:25

Vitezislav

Can we create our on threads in the new gallery as well, because I think it will be a chaos if there is no way to sort images.
Fri, 25 Apr 2014 19:12:01

Ganonmaster

"Vitezislav" said ...
Can we create our on threads in the new gallery as well, because I think it will be a chaos if there is no way to sort images.
People will be able to view all of your images on your profile page. I'll be changing the profile page around a little to feature latest images more prominently. Also, a tagging system is coming up.
Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:22:06

kalixx1

So you want to take away our own threads where we can actually write things not just post images. Not really like the idea. I see some nice new feature too like profile showing all created images by the user but perhaps you shoudn't change the core functions so drastically.
Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:43:44

Rastifan

You will not need personal threads with the new system that will be much like DA. The old one will be obsolete as the new is much more efficient and it is a lot easier to find the work of one artist. With the current threads, older ones get pushed back and often forgotten. All this is still under development.
Fri, 25 Apr 2014 21:29:13

kalixx1

Guess I'll see. but won't all these images and the traffic they generate be too much for your budget? Should I upload all my images to the site? or just select a few?
Fri, 25 Apr 2014 21:37:52

Rastifan

We are fine what resources are concerned. If that becomes an issue, a solution will be devised. You can upload what you want. I will take the opportunity to upload the stuff I think are best. But that is up to you.
Sat, 26 Apr 2014 07:41:18

kalixx1

I decided to upload 69 of my images. First 10 is up. You said the problem with the old threads is they are getting pushed back as new ones made and posted. I see the same problem here. Only it's happening much faster here. Basically now we have one thread to post images. So if everyone is going to do that here, instead of days pictures are going to "pushed back" in minutes. Finished. So for the moment only my images visible for several pages. All other pictures were pushed back and already lost. Are you sure this will be ok? And how am I going to know if one of the image got a comment?
Sat, 26 Apr 2014 09:36:19

Vitezislav

I agree with Kalixx1 on this matter. On DA people visit your profile and follow you or groups you joined and upload images on to see your images and get notified when there are new images. The old gallery here works similar for me, since I can check the threads that I follow for new images.
Sat, 26 Apr 2014 10:28:51

AyatollaOfRock

If there were some way to 'tag' images, it would make things a lot more streamlined. Already in the Sex Poses Gallery there's 8 pages of stuff, with no idea what's there. I like the Gallery idea otherwise.
Sat, 26 Apr 2014 11:07:18

kalenrivers

I like the new gallery, will the artist old works be move there, or will they be found in their profile, I am new here and was just starting to explore all the wonderful work here would hate to miss the older stuff.
Sat, 26 Apr 2014 11:26:31

Ganonmaster

"kalixx1" said ...
So for the moment only my images visible for several pages. All other pictures were pushed back and already lost. Are you sure this will be ok?
Yes this is fine for now until the tags and image notifications are in there.
"kalixx1" said ...
And how am I going to know if one of the image got a comment?
You can choose to automatically subscribe to your image.(this is enabled by default) When someone comments on your image, you will get a notification. At the moment this still happens by email, but I'm looking to change that to some kind of image inbox or a simple number in the header next to PMs.
"Vitezislav" said ...
I agree with Kalixx1 on this matter. On DA people visit your profile and follow you or groups you joined and upload images on to see your images and get notified when there are new images. The old gallery here works similar for me, since I can check the threads that I follow for new images.
Yes, and their threads got bumped and cluttered up whenever someone wanted to make a comment. That's why we're moving away from the old gallery. It's nowhere near the image notifications that DA and other sites have. A system that is more like this is in the works.
"AyatollaOfRock" said ...
If there were some way to 'tag' images, it would make things a lot more streamlined.
I am already building a tagging system. ;)
"kalenrivers" said ...
I like the new gallery, will the artist old works be move there, or will they be found in their profile, I am new here and was just starting to explore all the wonderful work here would hate to miss the older stuff.
Artists can choose if they want to move their old works there. The gallery section will be moved to the archive eventually, still viewable for everyone. That way their content will be preserved.
Sat, 26 Apr 2014 12:37:51

Qetesh

Just wanted to say I really like the new gallery. Always found the threading overly complicated as you had to open every single thread in a new tab to look for new pictures and animations, only to find out that there is no new content, but new comments. As soon as tagging, following and notifications work, it's perfect.
Sat, 26 Apr 2014 20:21:45

AyatollaOfRock

"Ganonmaster" said ...
I am already building a tagging system. ;)
Then I shall smile and welcome the Gallery with open arms! I also like the idea of it costing lewdcoins to upload, it encourages people to get involved a bit more.
Tue, 29 Apr 2014 00:46:05

Gilgamesh of Uruk

I like the concept of the gallery, but I think there's a few very important things it will need in order to work: 1) Unviewed image list - I use the shit out of the "unread thread" feature, and if I can't see which images have been posted since the last time I visited, I'm not going to bother viewing many at all. Note that this should be unviewed images, not just "comment posted" - although both, as separate indicators, would be nice too. 2) Sequences/Albums/Folders/Groupings - for comics in particular, you need to be able to group together several related images in a specific order. While this is mainly for comics, some image sequences also will need this (eg. alt camera angles, bukakke edits). Honestly, if that's too much work, making the comics section work as it currently does will be better than forcing it into the gallery. 3) Better organization. Splitting into sex/nudes/non-nudes/non-sexy worked when there were further subdivisions by author or content (eg. gay, futa/dickgirl, tentacle), but making that the only division will be a bit chaotic. Tags might alleviate this when you're searching for specific types, but there's enough overlap that it might be difficult. I would say to make basic categories under each - "straight", "lesbian", "gay", "futa/dickgirl", "tentacle/monster", "BDSM" and "other" would be my suggestions, with some of those obviously not being possible under non-sexy or non-nude. That way even if you're browsing everything (the way I prefer to), you have some idea what you're in for in a particular section.
Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:05:19

Lynna

I have mixed feelings about the new gallery so far. Mostly because adding text (descriptions) and download links - because I only show title pictures, not full comics in my currently still active thread, that's what the download links are for - seems to be impossible as it is right now. O_o Would someone be so kind to have a look at it: https://digitalero.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=735 I'd really like to keep the chronological order, descriptions and links for every work instead of just displaying pictures. That wouldn't make much sense in a comic section where everyone expects comic strips to be displayed. :shock:
Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:49:55

bloodwail

I am happy to welcome the gallery but I have one concern the gallery is located right next to the delete your account button and for those with unsteady fingers or lack of concentration this could result in a few problems
Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:44:05

Ganonmaster

"bloodwail" said ...
I am happy to welcome the gallery but I have one concern the gallery is located right next to the delete your account button and for those with unsteady fingers or lack of concentration this could result in a few problems
The Delete My Account button leads to a page where you need to click two checkboxes as well as enter your password. It's not a big deal right now anyway, because the placement will change.
"Gilgamesh of Uruk" said ...
2) Sequences/Albums/Folders/Groupings - for comics in particular, you need to be able to group together several related images in a specific order. While this is mainly for comics, some image sequences also will need this (eg. alt camera angles, bukakke edits). Honestly, if that's too much work, making the comics section work as it currently does will be better than forcing it into the gallery.
There's already grouping functionality of some description, which will be expanded upon. Right now this can be found here in your profile. You can create a personal album with sub-albums for each comic. Eventually all images will be grouped under personal galleries and placement on your profile will change to be more self evident and straightforward.
"bloodwail" said ...
3) Better organization. Splitting into sex/nudes/non-nudes/non-sexy worked when there were further subdivisions by author or content (eg. gay, futa/dickgirl, tentacle), but making that the only division will be a bit chaotic. Tags might alleviate this when you're searching for specific types, but there's enough overlap that it might be difficult. I would say to make basic categories under each - "straight", "lesbian", "gay", "futa/dickgirl", "tentacle/monster", "BDSM" and "other" would be my suggestions, with some of those obviously not being possible under non-sexy or non-nude. That way even if you're browsing everything (the way I prefer to), you have some idea what you're in for in a particular section.
Yes, the current sections are completely meaningless and stupid. Like I said, we'll be going for a tagging system.
"Lynna" said ...
I have mixed feelings about the new gallery so far. Mostly because adding text (descriptions) and download links - because I only show title pictures, not full comics in my currently still active thread, that's what the download links are for - seems to be impossible as it is right now. O_o
Not true. You can have long form descriptions with download links below your images. You would essentially upload your title picture to your gallery and write your description in step two of the upload. The description field is fully bbcode enabled, so any text styling and links should work without problem.
Sun, 04 May 2014 16:46:33

Sara

I've given the changes some consideration and these are my thoughts. 1) Could the limits to comics being uploaded be increased? (I'm guessing size restrictions.) <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="https://digitalero.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=601&p=41929#p41929">viewtopic.php?f=20&t=601&p=41929#p41929</a><!-- l --> That way I'm hoping Big Johnson will be able to upload his comics without compromising on size and quality, or having to split them apart. I can see others making similar comics being affected by the limits too if nothing is done. Rastifan's awesome Miranda deepthroat comic for instance -- I'd wonder if that's within or close to the limits. Even if it comes at higher lewdcoin costs I've already expressed my willingness to help donate to the artist to make those comics happen and hopefully others might be too, if that's what it takes. 2) When it comes to replies, the lewdcoins at the moment only seem to be rewarded from posting replies outside of the new gallery. If you need more details let me know. 3) Is there or can there be a way for a user to favorite specific artists/uploaders to make them easily findable when looking to see what they have? Maybe a gallery update news feed per user toward artists that they are subscribed to? As far as I can tell right now the best there is for that is finding a link to their profile page from somewhere on the site and checking their gallery, or adding them as a friend so you can find them in your profile maybe, but that's not quite the same as a supporting feature could handle it better. 4) I know it's more of a vanity issue but I notice the galleries don't seem to show the avatars of the uploaders in the image posting itself. While comments are more forum-like and have their regular avatars. I'd suggest adding the uploader's avatar somewhere when the image is posted. I think it'd be a nice little touch of personalization.
Mon, 05 May 2014 00:29:37

Ganonmaster

"Sara" said ...
I1) Could the limits to comics being uploaded be increased? (I'm guessing size restrictions.) <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="https://digitalero.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=601&p=41929#p41929">viewtopic.php?f=20&t=601&p=41929#p41929</a><!-- l --> That way I'm hoping Big Johnson will be able to upload his comics without compromising on size and quality, or having to split them apart. I can see others making similar comics being affected by the limits too if nothing is done. Rastifan's awesome Miranda deepthroat comic for instance -- I'd wonder if that's within or close to the limits. Even if it comes at higher lewdcoin costs I've already expressed my willingness to help donate to the artist to make those comics happen and hopefully others might be too, if that's what it takes.
It's some bandwidth/storage considerations and some limits on current gallery functionality. The image dimension limits are just a matter of me flipping a switch in the ACP, but I don't want to do that as of yet. The thing is that the gallery is not a finished product. Many features are still to come and a lot of things are going to change, especially the way images are browsed, sorted and displayed. If people have things they don't like about the gallery, I want to do everything to make it so that they'll start liking it. If Big Johnson, or anyone else, has problems with the gallery, they can tell me directly so I can fix it. Not just bugs they run into, but feature requests too. The gallery is only just taking shape, so now is the time to get your usage problems made clear. This is really offtopic because I won't take it into consideration in the design of the gallery, but I personally hate "comics" that don't stick to a normal comic aspect ratio. Comics that stick to 3:4 or 2:3 aspect ratio are fine because those are very close to the size of actual comics. For some artists' comics, every frame is a single image of the same size with some text on it. They're like single still images with text on them as opposed aligned one by one to construct a narrative. To me it comes off as lazy and unimaginative. The difference is in framing. If every image is the same size, you're not utilizing the space to convey motion or drama other than text and pose. It makes the whole thing look flat. Actual comics play with framing and perspective to make things pop, convey the passage of time, establish atmosphere or use it for comedic purposes. Examples: 1,2,3. No offense to the artists previously mentioned, but the framing of those comics makes for a really flat experience, which is a shame considering that the other aspects are usually top notch. The second reason is that I prefer to download and read a lot of comics in comic viewers like CDisplayEx on Windows and Simple Comic on Mac. Page turning is in my opinion also vital to the comic experience.
"Sara" said ...
2) When it comes to replies, the lewdcoins at the moment only seem to be rewarded from posting replies outside of the new gallery. If you need more details let me know.
Lewdcoins are not utilized at the moment. You don't spend or receive them for any gallery related activities at this time.
"Sara" said ...
3) Is there or can there be a way for a user to favorite specific artists/uploaders to make them easily findable when looking to see what they have? Maybe a gallery update news feed per user toward artists that they are subscribed to? As far as I can tell right now the best there is for that is finding a link to their profile page from somewhere on the site and checking their gallery, or adding them as a friend so you can find them in your profile maybe, but that's not quite the same as a supporting feature could handle it better.
I want this too, but first, we'll have to move everything to personal albums instead of the current "global galleries". We're going to make it more profile based. And before we do that, we'll have to change a lot of layout related things. A "follower" system will be implemented at a later time.
"Sara" said ...
4) I know it's more of a vanity issue but I notice the galleries don't seem to show the avatars of the uploaders in the image posting itself. While comments are more forum-like and have their regular avatars. I'd suggest adding the uploader's avatar somewhere when the image is posted. I think it'd be a nice little touch of personalization.
Oh now you're just nitpicking. (yes, I want this too)
Mon, 05 May 2014 00:51:14

Lynna

"Ganonmaster" said ...
Not true. You can have long form descriptions with download links below your images. You would essentially upload your title picture to your gallery and write your description in step two of the upload. The description field is fully bbcode enabled, so any text styling and links should work without problem.
My fault, sorry. I confused the description with the comment input field. Both areas look almost the same. Anyway. I don't want to criticize the look and meaning behind the gallery. It surely is a good idea for most people and an easy way to upload stuff, and I'm only voicing my opinion, nothing more. I think, I gonna wait a few weeks at least and until the design is more sophisticated before uploading something. I'm not comfortable with the drastic change in appearance and feel compared to the old threads.
Tue, 06 May 2014 04:01:44

Pipedude

After seeing a model request for an underage character I think the gallery needs a rules post or something on the upload page. i mean a lot of familiar faces post often but still, why risk it.
Wed, 14 May 2014 07:30:26

kalixx1

I started to add tags to my pictures but made some mistakes. How can I remove tags? and I see a lot of user adds names of the characters. Why would anyone search for catwomen or tomb raider and such? That seems pointless to me. It should be primarily porn. tags like ones porn trackers use.
Wed, 14 May 2014 08:24:06

Ganonmaster

"kalixx1" said ...
I started to add tags to my pictures but made some mistakes. How can I remove tags?
There's a little x next to your tag. You may have to refresh before it shows up.
"kalixx1" said ...
Why would anyone search for catwomen or tomb raider and such? That seems pointless to me. It should be primarily porn. tags like ones porn trackers use.
Because many, many people the appeal of this site is seeing their favorite (videogame) characters go at it. The fact that you even need to ask is stunning to me. A large group of our users comes to this site to indulge in porn based on their specific fandom, videogame or favorite character. This is especially true for the lurking members who do not actively contribute content to our site and just visit for a fap. They take up the majority of our traffic. And I have referrer and search data to back that up.Our fulltext album search can't identify which character is in which picture and at times people don't add the character name to the image description. The result is that for example, the best images featuring Liara or Kasumi Goto may become impossible to find for those who want their Mass Effect fix. If I can help them find what they want faster, that saves me bandwidth they would otherwise consume by browsing pages and it saves them time they can spend fapping. Generic terms like "orgy" or "blowjob" often result in multiple pages of content: a pain to sift through for the videogame minded demographic browsing this site. Those tags may be useful to some users, but for many people, they're not interesting on their own. Being able to use more specific tags is vital. Example: I'm really into Christie from the Dead or Alive series and I want to look at some sexy pics featuring her giving blowjobs. All I would need to do is select the "christie" and "blowjob" tags and it'll give me a bunch of results. (A feature for browsing such "tag mixes" (using multiple tags at once) is forthcoming.) Also, note nothing is stopping you from adding those "porn tracker" tags. Just type a new tag name into the field and press enter. We're aiming for tags somewhat similar to gelbooru and rule34.xxx, so IF you're having trouble searching through the tags list, we could perhaps add "tag types" that would color/differentiate tags by fetish/series/character like those other sites do.
Wed, 14 May 2014 08:39:27

kalixx1

"Ganonmaster" said ...
"kalixx1" said ...
Why would anyone search for catwomen or tomb raider and such? That seems pointless to me. It should be primarily porn. tags like ones porn trackers use.
Because many, many people the appeal of this site is seeing their favorite (videogame) characters go at it. The fact that you even need to ask is stunning to me. A large group of our users comes to this site to indulge in porn based on their specific fandom, videogame or favorite character. This is especially true for the lurking members who do not actively contribute content to our site and just visit for a fap. They take up the majority of our traffic. And I have referrer and search data to back that up.Our fulltext album search can't identify which character is in which picture and at times people don't add the character name to the image description. The result is that for example, the best images featuring Liara or Kasumi Goto may become impossible to find for those who want their Mass Effect fix. If I can help them find what they want faster, that saves me bandwidth they would otherwise consume by browsing pages and it saves them time they can spend fapping. Generic terms like "orgy" or "blowjob" often result in multiple pages of content: a pain to sift through for the videogame minded demographic browsing this site. Those tags may be useful to some users, but for many people, they're not interesting on their own. Being able to use more specific tags is vital. Example: I'm really into Christie from the Dead or Alive series and I want to look at some sexy pics featuring her giving blowjobs. All I would need to do is select the "christie" and "blowjob" tags and it'll give me a bunch of results. (A feature for browsing such "tag mixes" (using multiple tags at once) is forthcoming.) Also, note nothing is stopping you from adding those "porn tracker" tags. Just type a new tag name into the field and press enter. We're aiming for tags somewhat similar to gelbooru and rule34.xxx, so IF you're having trouble searching through the tags list, we could perhaps add "tag types" that would color/differentiate tags by fetish/series/character like those other sites do.
Frankly I have never cared about names, only the image itself but I understand your point. I'm going to add names then too.
Fri, 16 May 2014 01:11:58

Gilgamesh of Uruk

Should we perhaps create categories of tags? Eg. character tags (lara_croft, liara_tsoni), author tags, fetish tags (bukkake, tentacle, forced), scene tags (2girls1guy, outdoors), tool tags (sfm, gmod). I think that would make the tags list much easier to look through.
Mon, 19 May 2014 14:14:54

Qetesh

I also came up with a few suggestions. As I said, I support the new gallery, but nothing is ever perfect. 1. How about making the rating system a little more relevant? There are sometimes bursts of crap in the gallery pushing the great artworks back, often never to be seen. I'd suggest a "trending" section where the most viewed and best rated pictures of the week/month are showcased (once people actually rate... see point 2). 2. There is a reason why Deviantart, Facebook, Youtube and whatnot don't use point rating systems anymore: users either like the content presented or they don't. If they do like it, they rate it high and perhaps even care to comment. If they don't like it, they are doing nothing at all due to fear of being impolite, because they are lazy or simply because they don't know what to rate it exactly. Most people are not (and don't want to be) judgmental critics who give an honest score. A "like" system makes much more sense, especially in face of point 1. It's always easier to say you like something rather than giving a score to someone else's work.
Sun, 25 May 2014 18:02:56

DotaCouch

So only now I started using it, I think its a good idea (but dont delete the movie section please) but agree with the user above, sometimes theres seems to be a burst of crappy animations being uploaded there, hiding the good ones. I think theres need to be a filter or liking system of some sort, or moderation... if I remember DE had a standard for good animations.
Sun, 25 May 2014 20:24:22

Rastifan

"DotaCouch" said ...
if I remember DE had a standard for good animations.
We have a standard saying no troll animations. Being bad at animating is not a crime here as long as the effort is there. One assume the person will learn. But this is to be expected. SFM is as pointed out easy to animate in. So many will give it a shot. For the movies, I don't know how well they work in the new gallery. I had problems with the sound playing them. But that could be on my end. But a comic section in traditional thread form will remain. The gallery is not suited for that type of media in the current form, and several more have wished the comic thread stays, so it will. It is up to the member's to use that or the new gallery.
Sun, 25 May 2014 20:45:12

DotaCouch

of course, not saying is a crime and you have to startup somewhere, but for that they should just create a thread in the movies section and post there. Theres actually good animations posted on the new gallery from artists I didn't know, but then theres all the bad ones that push them to the bottom and gives them less exposure, thats also why its good to keep the movies threads. That or like people said, improve the rating/trending/liking system. just my 2 cents
Thu, 29 May 2014 04:25:57

Gilgamesh of Uruk

Is there any plan to add an indicator to gallery images that you haven't viewed yet? I asked about that a while ago, and I didn't get a response to that particular query. I literally won't be able to use the gallery until we get something like that, so I'm kind of concerned. The reason is that I want to see every image that gets uploaded (the community is too small for me to follow only specific artists), but I don't want to have to browse literally the entire gallery every time I come on here. Right now, all we have is an indicator showing that there's new items in each main gallery, but no indication of which ones those are. So I either have to memorize when I last visited and compare the upload dates, or go through in reverse chronological order and stop whenever things start looking familiar. Neither of those are good options - I may as well just wait for it all to get reuploaded to a different site. I can also see a use for "new comments posted" indicators, but since I rarely feel the need to comment I don't personally need it.